Tuesday, January 18, 2011

Stupid Gun Laws - Magazine Capacity

There's been quite a bit of talk in the news about banning "high capacity" (I.E. standard capacity) magazines because some crazy shithead killed people with a Glock. I'm not going to get into the absurdity of saying "10 rounds good, 12 rounds evil" but I did want to expand on something I saw at Unc's.

As Unc points out, a few states have their own restrictions on mag capacity and of course, the free market has found a way to legally get around the restriction by selling repair kits. People in these less free states want standard magazines like the rest of us and the market has responded to that demand. Isn't capitalism great?

Of course there's also nothing stopping me from buying a ton of hi-cap mags and having friends from Maryland drive into Delaware so I can give them to folks who need them.* Likewise if Delaware passed such a law I could simply drive a few minutes into PA, buy all the mags I could afford and then return. Maryland residents may own normal magazines, they just can't buy them anywhere inside MD or have them shipped into the state. If you were a MD resident in say, Elkton this would be trivially easy, since there's a gunshop right over the MD/DE state line in Newark on 896.

I'm not sure how that works in other ban states, but I suspect we'll see similar activity in CA in response to the draconian ammo restrictions imposed by AB962. That's good news for businesses in AZ, OR and NV and not so good for CA. Then again California liberals despise capitalism anyway.

People who desire freedom will find a way around bad laws while simultaneously trying to change them. Criminals will just ignore them and go about business as usual.

H/T to Sayuncle and Robb Allen

*I don't want friends in MD stuck with neutered mags when the zombies come for their braaaains!


FightinBluHen51 said...

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! Those friends and family bought or received them from you as a gift while visiting you in Delaware! It's illegal to gift or buy in the state of MD, period. No transfers of mags in excess of 20 rounds, period.

Mike W. said...

Exactly. It's been a few years. Post corrected to reflect the actual course of events.

Mike W. said...

And now that I think of it, it was ammo that I brought from home to MD. We all went to a gunshow in PA to get the mags.

FightinBluHen51 said...

That's ok of course.

I just missed the show here in MD but I might think about trip to the show in Chantilly, VA the next time there is one.

I'd like a few more 1911 mags. And a case or two of AK ammo.

Linoge said...

Kalifornistan expressly forbids the ownership of any magazine with a capacity over 10 rounds, so going over state lines is not really an option...

As for the ammo-shipping ban, though, it just got ruled unconstitutionally vague on its face (on its FACE!... sorry), so there is that :).

Weer'd Beard said...

Greater than 10 round mags are perfectly legal here in Mass so long as they were made before 1994.

Of course I was at the range and I saw a guy shooting an M&P40. I asked him how he liked it, he liked it fine and asked if I wanted to shoot it. When I dropped the magazine I noted it was loaded with 15 rounds. He had no idea he was committing a crime, he had been up in Maine and saw a bin full of them in a local shop. Nobody said anything when he bought them.

And what harm did that do? NOTHING!

JimB said...

In NJ anything over 15 rounds is the same as being in posession of a machine gun. No transfer, No Grandfathering, No posession, No legal way to disppose of them.

Anonymous said...

Uh, Linoge, California Penal Code section 12020(a)(2) forbids manufacture, import, keeping or offering for sale, giving or lending "real" magazines. Not possession.

This does not, of course, invalidate the spirit of your post. I would never, of course, "import" a magazine from Oregon or Nevada or Arizona. I just take really good care of the magazines I bought in the 1990's, and prove I didn't.

Cheers, Medium Sized Jake