Monday, July 27, 2009

Why I Love College Campuses

Where else can you get 23 oz. draft beers for the regular price of $2.50 all day, 7 days a week? (and to think they were $2 when I was at UD) Of course at the other end of the spectrum I paid $6.75 for a Bud at the Phillies game.

I swear I don't think I'll ever get used to paying inflated prices for crappy light beer. Everything outside of Newark is 3 times more expensive and I'm still a poor college student at heart.

Oh, and a word of advice. Don't drink Bud Light Lime just because it's half price. Whoever decided that brewing beer with artificial lime flavoring in it was a good idea should hang his head in shame.

Ok folks, there's your random, completely off-topic Monday post.

Update - Sorry - Had a little fun with a blithering idiot poking around in the comment section. My apologies for going off-topic.

29 comments:

Weer'd Beard said...

Snarky comment from MikeB about gun owners consuming alchol in 3...2...1....

the pistolero said...

Funny, Weer'd. ;-)
Re: beer with lime -- I have had Corona with a real slice of lime and it's all right, but if I had my druthers I'd take a nice bottle of Shiner Bock. Or Miller Lite, or regular Bud, pretty much in that order. I hope the beer you got at the Phillies game was on tap for that price.

Anonymous said...

I saw a sticker the other day: Guns save lives!

I wonder, are there more or fewer guns on the streets today than there were 50 years ago?

I also wonder, are there more or fewer deaths by gun fire today than there were 50 years ago?

Actually, I don't wonder. The answers are more and more.

Guns don't save lives; they evidently take them.

Mike W. said...

Anon - Guns are objects, they don't DO anything. Also, we had little to no firearms restrictions and far more gun availability 50 years ago and yet less violent crime.

Do some research, you might learn something.

Pistolero - Yeah, Corona with lime is doable, but this stuff has a distinct artificial lime flavoring to it. As for Shiner Bock. Good choice! It's head and shoulders above Bud, Miller etc.

Oh, and that $6.75 was for a 12oz bottled beer....in a plastic bottle.

Anonymous said...

Mike,

Are there more guns today than there were 50 years ago? Answer the question. You might want to do some research. It's a simple question with a simple answer.

Question#2: Do more people die by guns today than 50 years ago? Simple question, simple answer. Do some research.

Yes or no?

And if the answer is yes, there is a correlation that says more guns equals more death. Are you for more death?

Yes or no? This is an opinion, so no research required for this answer.

Mike W. said...

No one "dies by gun." Do your own research rather than asking me to do it for you.

I've done the research, I've studied this topic extensively, and ALL of the evidence supports the pro-gun, pro-rights view.

As far as "simple questions" go, answer "Just One Question" for me.

http://blog.joehuffman.org/2004/12/15/JustOneQuestion.aspx

BTW - I have a pretty good idea who you are. Next time show some balls and sign your name.

Anonymous said...

Didn't answer the questions again. Why not? Why not just admit that it's fact?

It doesn't mean we're going to take your precious guns away...just admit it--there's a correlation between number of guns and number of deaths by gun.

the pistolero said...

It doesn't mean we're going to take your precious guns away...just admit it--there's a correlation between number of guns and number of deaths by gun.
Which means precisely jack and shit, because, in the words of L. Neil Smith:
"...the freedom to own and carry the weapon of your choice is a natural, fundamental, and inalienable human, individual, civil, and Constitutional right -- subject neither to the democratic process nor to arguments grounded in social utility."

the pistolero said...

distinct artificial lime flavoring to it.
Now that's just twisted. You'd think the target audience for that sort of thing would eventually figure out they'd be better off just buying real lime. And I do love my Texas-brewed Shiner, on tap or in the bottle.

Anonymous said...

You didn't answer the questions either. Why not?

I didn't ask a question about L. Neil Smith or the Second Amendment.

I just asked a simple questions: do deaths increase as guns increase?

Unknown said...

Mike W., I remember how impressed I was when you went to Phoenix and posted about how you wouldn't carry the gun if you were going to drink. I respect that. That Weer'd on the other hand, drinks martinis (plural) at home, gets sloshed and just hopes no one knocks on the door. And that Pistolero, I think he looks a little cross-eyed in his icon image, can you see it?

the pistolero said...

I just asked a simple questions: do deaths increase as guns increase?
I don't care if they do or don't. And I really don't give a damn HOW you "think" I look in my icon image, Mikey.

Mike W. said...

Guys - If I'm not mistaken "Anonymous" is "Jason330" of Delaware Liberal. As you all well know, he has the intellectual capacity of a lobotomized chimp. He has proven himself incapable of rational thought.

The only thing worse would be trying to have a discussion with Don Viti.

Mike W. said...

"I just asked a simple questions: do deaths increase as guns increase?"

Also, the answer to his simple question is NO. If they did we'd see obvious evidence. States with high rates of gun ownership would have far more violent crime & associated deaths than states with low rates.

the pistolero said...

"Jason330" of Delaware Liberal...has the intellectual capacity of a lobotomized chimp.

I demand you apologize posthaste for such a grievous insult to lobotomized chimps.

Anonymous said...

Mike,
You got the wrong answer. The answer is YES, which simply proves that the sticker and the belief amongst gun owners that guns save lives is wrong. Can you accept that?

By the way, 30 people were killed yesterday by guns. You don't care, pistolero?

Mike W. said...
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Mike W. said...

"You got the wrong answer. The answer is YES, which simply proves that the sticker and the belief amongst gun owners that guns save lives is wrong. Can you accept that?"

Ah yes Jason, you believe the answer is yes, therefore it is. No facts, no evidence, no logic, absolutely jack-shit substantiating your position.

Why would I accept something that has no basis in reality?

And unless they've developed firearms with AI that can choose targets and kill on their own none of those 30 people were killed by guns yesterday.

This isn't the movie I Robot this is the real world, where people are killed by other PEOPLE.

(Also, I notice you offer no citation for that number, you just pulled it out of your ass)

Do some research.

Seriously, why do you even try? You're an intellectual lightweight.

Anonymous said...

Wow, MIkeW, you seem to attract all of the hoplophobic idiots sometimes... On the one hand, we have MikeB continuing to cast baseless aspersions and specious insinuations, and on the other hand, we have a blithering idiot. Congrutulations?

I wonder, are there more or fewer guns on the streets today than there were 50 years ago?

I also wonder, are there more or fewer deaths by gun fire today than there were 50 years ago?


I wonder, are there are more or fewer people on the streets today than there were 50 years ago?

I also wonder, are there more or fewer deaths by people today than there were 50 years ago?

Actually, I don't wonder. The answers are more and more.

Therefore, people are bad, and must be banned.

*headdesk*

As usual, the "logic" of anti-rights advocates leaves a lot to be desired. First up, comparing raw numbers is completely and absolutely meaningless - one must, in order to be honest and fair, compare rates if we are going to be looking at dfiferent time periods. Unfortunately, I seriously doubt if statistics concerning firearm-related deaths were kept 50 years ago, and WISQARS only tracks back to 1981, so I guess we will use that information.

In 1981, there were 15,089 non-legal-intervention homicide firearm deaths out of a population of 229,465,316 - yielding a rate of 6.58 per 100,000. In 2006, there were 12,791 non-legal-intervention homicide firearm deaths out of a population of 298,754,819 - yielding a rate of 4.28.

6.58 > 4.28.

In fact, 15,089 > 12,791.

Thus, in the past 28 years, the number and rate of homicides committed with the assistance of a firearm have decreased (by 35%, in the case of the rate).

(And since I know you hoplophobes will ask, a similar decrease took place for all firearm-related deaths in that window as well, including accidents and suicides.)

Unfortunately, the ATF does not keep records going very far back concerning firearm ownership, but you can look at the production numbers between 1998 and 2007 here, and suffice to say that the number of firearms owned by Americans has increased by between 2 and 4.5 million every single one of those years.

Thus, your hypothesis that there is a correlation between increased firearm ownership and increased firearm deaths is proven demonstrably false.

Do you anti-rights halfwits see what I did there? Not only did I blow your paltry and pathetic argument right out of the water, I backed up my position with these strange things called "facts". Now that your narrow-minded little arses have been handed to you, I would strongly suggest that you reconsider your positions, lest you want to have it happen again.

the pistolero said...

30 people were killed yesterday by guns
They were killed by the guns themselves? Funny, I've never come upon any of these bands of roving feral weaponry and Texas is supposed to be awash in firearms. One would almost think you're full of shite.

You don't care, pistolero?
It sucks, sure, but ultimately the actions of the creatures who pulled the trigger don't have any bearing on my rights. At least they shouldn't in any society worthy of the liberty so many of our fine men and women have fought and died for.

Mike W. said...

Damn Jason, you just got your ass handed to you!

I love it. I handed you're DL contributor Nemski his ass a while back here. I proved him wrong with FACTS, and he ran away crying.

Robb and I made "Delaware's Toughest Blogger" look like a blithering moron (not hard to do) both here and at Robb's over the "Guns vs. Spoons" analogy.

Then again, it's really an unfair fight when myself and my commenters are dealing with folks like yourself who have such glaring mental deficiencies.

MikeB - Thanks for jumping in and posting one comment with which you chose to personally attack Weer'd. Why am I not surprised?

As for my fellow pro-rights bloggers. I am DAMN glad you're on my side!

Anonymous said...

Heh, I just transformed that ass-handing into a full-fledged post, doing all that research Jason asked you to do, and all the research he obviously did not do himself.

I guess Jason's illogical and untrue beliefs just go to show the effects of irrational bigotry on people...

Anonymous said...

While you're at it, can you look into the correlation between rednecks who sodomize each other with their pistols and number of guns in the country? I think it's at an all time high.

Anonymous said...

By the way, who the hell is Jason?

Weer'd Beard said...

Awww, Look the Cowardly troll has now resorted to name-calling.

It's like they think that if they pretend hard enough it'll make their backwards world-view less wrong.

the pistolero said...

Wow, he's so deranged he doesn't even know who he is.

Anonymous said...

Yeah... because being a name-calling child will certainly help your case, you spineless twit.

*sigh* Sadly, your entertainment value has long since disappeared.

mike's spot said...

Anonymous-

I promise I will never accuse you of making a statement that resembles a rational argument.

your 50 years ago argument is to say the least. . . silly.

50 years ago were there less liberals?

answer the question

50 years ago was murder lower?

answer the question

liberals kill people.

you can insert: cars, boats, planes, electric hand tools,running water, indoor plumbing, mopeds,white people, black people, Asians, Latinos, people with college degrees, people in general, products with high fructose corn syrup, and availability of snickers bars to your equation and have it hold true. (that means its not true by the way)

50 years ago it was far easier for US citizens to purchase legal full auto machine guns.

Full auto saves lives.

Here's something to think about- an estimated 2 million crimes a year are prevented with legally owned guns.

lets say that number is over inflated by a factor of 100.

that still leaves 20,000 incidents where guns save lives.

if you add all the murders in the US via guns you get just under 13,000.

Guns are still a positive impact on US society for the population even after giving you such a head start.

oh ps, of those 13,000 murders, I included over 1000 of which that were deemed justified in a court of law that were acts of self defense committed by citizens and police.

Do you really think your statement is logical, or are you willing to have a discussion?

your comments are snarky and inaccurate, which makes me think the former and not the later.

Timmeehh said...

There are more gun control laws today than 50 years ago.

More people are shot now than 50 years ago.

Proof positive that gun control laws kill people.
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OR

50 years ago there were no Japanese cars in America.

Today there are millions of Japanese cars.

More people are murdered today than 50 years ago.

Proof positive that Japanese cars are responsible for a higher murder rate.