Wednesday, May 19, 2010

It Took This Long?

The U.S. Army has finally approved jacketed hollowpoints for MP's posted on military bases.

It's been common knowledge for decades now that hollow points are significantly more effective than FMJ rounds. Only the Federal government would take this long to make what should have been a simple and obvious change.

In other news, I'm listening to the VC, and I can honestly say I do not have a good radio voice....

5 comments:

Jeff the Baptist said...

Yes, but hollowpoints are also forbidden by the Hague Accords. Which is why the military doesn't generally issue them.

Mike W. said...

True, but general issue to troops in combat and issuing them to MP's are two totally different things.

Beaumont said...

Now that the Army has approved them, the Air Force will follow suit in about.....fifteen to twenty years....

Geodkyt said...

Actually, hollowpoints aren't forbidden by the Hague Convention.

SOME hollowpoints are, if they are "calculated to cause unnecessary suffering". (Most people quote the original Hague, which isn't really in effect. This language is from the 1907 Hague, which the US voluntarily observes. The 1949 Geneva Convention has similar language -- the US didn't adopt it, but has agreed to voluntarily abide by much of it.)

Open tip match bullets (a fancy PC term for hollowpoint bullets where the hole isn't help expansion, but aerodynamics) do not. Which is why the open tip match bullets the snipers like for accuracy have been cleared for "regular" combat since 1990. The Marines have just gotten clearance for a 5.56x45mm round that's open tip, for use in short barrelled guns like the SCAR.

Conventional hollowpoints were cleared for combat use in 1985 for use when not engaging the armed forces of nations.

Weer'd Beard said...

ANNNND they're still banned in New Jersey.

I remember talking with a cop on the shooting range once and he mentioned a woman who was asking them to stop using Hollow Points for whatever PSH reason. the Cop responded "You do know that'll mean we'll just have to shoot people more, right?"

I've actually read that hollow points are LESS deadly than FMJ simply because you have to poke so many extra holes in the attacker to get the desired result that they bleed to death before they can get carted off.

BTW your radio voice is fine, we just all sound like shit (Actually I sound ok, but that's because I'm obnoxiously loud in general) talking into Alan's mic.

Get headphones a mic and skype and join us for the usual style!